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Where can I find cheap laptops?

I am looking for either an HP or a mac laptop. I don't want to pay so much money for them..is there any place/website that i can find really cheap and good/powerful ones? I don't want a used one.

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1. ummn...ebay.com? and wavee.com
2. You can find refurbished ones for sale online. Gently used, really. I know you don't want used but they're often almost new. Avoid emachines! They're cheap but not made of the best stuff.